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Solas · Apr 20, 2008, 09:43 AM // 09:43

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Originally Posted by GW GF

So, I'm not sure where to post this, but I want to make a suggestion.

Why doesn't GW sell Plat? OK I know I am going to get totally made fun of for this, but I want to hear real reasons and not insults. I have a full time job. I make lots of money but have little time. Why can't I just go to GW, give them 20 buck and get 100k? This would be good for me because I don't have time to farm, but I like to play.

GW would make more money from me and I would enjoy the game more. Is it a crime to only want to play a couple of hours a night? Do I deserve to have crappy armor and weapons because I don't have the time to farm? Wouldn't GW be better off if they let players just buy plat? They would make more money.. Those that don't have the cash, but do have the time could farm to get the money.

I guess I just don't get it... why aren't they taking advantage of an opportunity to make money. Not everyone who likes to play has the time or interest in sitting around for hours to make virtual money.

its an online mmo, it supposed to be differant then RL.
everyone is kinda equal except for skill.

So you think its fair that since you make a nice bit you can just buy 100k
while it takes little billie a few weeks?

ModTerrik · Apr 20, 2008, 09:43 AM // 09:43

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Originally Posted by Shai Lee

The thread degenerated, otherwise it could have had some life as a more serious topic. -.-

1. If Anet were to sell gold, where would they get the gold? Sudden magic money that simply appears, buy it off of player farmers, sweat shop exploitation of their own or off of companies that previously ebayed?

2. I still think that ebay companies would still find a way to undercut Anet's gold selling and the people they already exploit would end up having worse conditions than they probably already do.

Other:
- if this was in sardelac, it would have a /notsigned from me, so far
- thus far, I've agreed with many of Meat Axe's point of view

1. Umm yes..it would be magic money. Near as I can tell, they can make gold whenever they feel like it. In fact, the CEO probably has every item on every character with a full guild hall and all armor types.

2. Fine, they undercut, you buy, you get banned and the money is removed. Case closed.

Abedeus · Apr 20, 2008, 09:43 AM // 09:43

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Originally Posted by ModTerrik

Actually I do. It's a matter of pricing it so that it doesn't flood the market. Would you pay $10 for a plat? 10 plat?

$10 for a plat? Never. Actually, I would gladly SELL 1 plat for $10 Oo who wouldn't? But if you make more than $10 for 15 minutes, than sure, buy 1 plat for $10. It's just that it's a huge waste of cash.

And still, if people would see that someone is getting rich faster than they are and he didn't log on for more than 1 hour in a week, they would just quit. What's the point? Someone with more rl money will have more cash anyway.

And again, creating more money in-game by admins IS a bad idea. Plus, ebayers would just lower prices, so people would still want more their gold than a.net's.

Shai Lee · Apr 20, 2008, 09:43 AM // 09:43

Homework, extra-curricular activities, classes, studies tend to be what teenagers and college students focus on. Plus there's eating, sleeping, commuting. So 10-12 hrs a day of playing GW isn't viable.

DivineEnvoy · Apr 20, 2008, 09:45 AM // 09:45

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Originally Posted by ModTerrik

truthfully, it's not like that at all. In fact that's completely wrong. This thread is about spending money which is received in RL on game items. Then one guy spoke up and said that money effort<time effort spent in game. I let him know that he was incorrect.

Your comparison is apple and oranges.

Here's my analogy: Someone spent four years into getting this degree of Engineering, and this person later demands that he deserves to be a doctor simply because of his efforts in those four years. Medical and Engineering are not related. As we know, if the person wanted to a doctor, he should've went to a medical school and put in efforts there.

Now here's the situation: There are people who spent time into working in real life, and they are demanding that they deserve to have a good amount of gold in this game called Guild Wars simply because they put in efforts into working in real life. As we know, real life and ingame are not related. If these people wanted to earn these gold ingame, they should've put in efforts ingame.

I can see that real life money and ingame gold to be apple and oranges, and I believe that my analogy proves the invalidity of this thread.

explodemyheart · Apr 20, 2008, 09:45 AM // 09:45

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Originally Posted by GW GF

Telling someone to take their toys and go home is not rude?

Sorry.. I've played with tons of very nice guys and every single girl I've ever met in GW has been rude.

I"ve asked you REPEATEDLY to make up and be nice and you still aren't.

So I'm not being nice and I'm actually going to pay no attention to what you say unless you apologize and/or go farming with me for like 10 minutes.

I will start by being the bigger person. I'm sorry for being a bitch. Take it or leave it. IF you take it then lets start over by being nice. If you leave it then go to a different thread.

Perhaps I was rude, I have a naturally abrasive personality. However, you have called me a liar and then, when having nothing else to resort to, have basically reduced to calling me ugly. You are continually proving why you don't deserve my help.

If not accepting to agree to disagree makes me the smaller person (which is funny, since considering AFTER you said that, you then went on to personally attack me even though after that point, I said nothing at all rude to you - I don't have to "make up" to no longer be rude), then I guess I'm the smaller person. I seriously have nothing to prove and what you're asking of me is something that you could have done several times over yourself in the amount of time you have been posting here.

Kyomi Tachibana · Apr 20, 2008, 09:45 AM // 09:45

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Originally Posted by Shai Lee

Homework, extra-curricular activities, classes, studies tend to be what teenagers and college students focus on. Plus there's eating, sleeping, commuting. So 10-12 hrs a day of playing GW isn't viable.

She beat me to it!

ModTerrik · Apr 20, 2008, 09:47 AM // 09:47

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Originally Posted by Angelic Upstart

I too am old and that isnt leet speak, try to figure it out yourself.
I am done here, arguing with people who are by themselves too lazy to try to attain wealth and also people trying to defend the indefensible, is not a good way to spend a Sunday morning.

PS. Convenience store clerk?

LMAO

Dont base everybody else's IQ and employement status on your own. ok .

At least you laughed, getting a chuckle out of people is a pain in the ass in this forum.

As to my IQ and employment status, it's irrelevant. My wife was kind enough to explain GTFO Troll...so I stand by my convenience store clerk joke.

ModTerrik · Apr 20, 2008, 09:49 AM // 09:49

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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed

its an online mmo, it supposed to be differant then RL.
everyone is kinda equal except for skill.

So you think its fair that since you make a nice bit you can just buy 100k
while it takes little billie a few weeks?

Yep. Just like I think it's fair that Bill Gates has a Leer Jet and I don't.

Shai Lee · Apr 20, 2008, 09:50 AM // 09:50

Also, GW's stance has been that it is not, nor will be, a pay to play game. I don't see what the difference would be between paying a monthly fee to play vs having to resort to buying gold in order to play the game.

Master Knightfall · Apr 20, 2008, 09:51 AM // 09:51

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Originally Posted by Avarre

I'd be for this, since gold doesn't give you a combatant advantage, it might bring in more profit since GW doesn't benefit from people farming all the time, and material possessions aren't the goal of GW anyway.

Actually be a step back from the generic MMO PvE that seems to be developing in GW. People thinking that farming longer gives, or should give them better stuff is ridiculous. If you've played longer, your advantage is you're a better player.

Sorry, but, have to disagree with you. Since the implementation of Ursans Blessing there isn't even a requirement for skill anymore or the advantage for having played longer making someone a better player. Anyone brand new to the game can go around killing anything and everything now with UB. <grin>

Also I would not agree to allow freedom of gold buying as I can see what it would do to the economy as I stated recently. It would just keep increasing the outside cost of real life money as inflation would go sky high. Unless of course Anet wanted to set the prices for everything, that is the only way it would work. Long as we can buy most high end items for 100k from some npc then that's the only way I would accept the ability to buy gold with real life money. Every resource in the game would also have to have a set price so inflation could not take over anything.

ModTerrik · Apr 20, 2008, 09:52 AM // 09:52

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Originally Posted by Shai Lee

Homework, extra-curricular activities, classes, studies tend to be what teenagers and college students focus on. Plus there's eating, sleeping, commuting. So 10-12 hrs a day of playing GW isn't viable.

Actually, I have 4 kids and I know how much free time they have in comparison to myself. Bad arguement.

I was being a little facetious when I said 10-12 hours a day. That's only on weekends and all of your holidays/breaks.

GW GF · Apr 20, 2008, 09:54 AM // 09:54

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Originally Posted by explodemyheart

Perhaps I was rude, I have a naturally abrasive personality. However, you have called me a liar and then, when having nothing else to resort to, have basically reduced to calling me ugly. You are continually proving why you don't deserve my help.

If not accepting to agree to disagree makes me the smaller person (which is funny, since considering AFTER you said that, you then went on to personally attack me even though after that point, I said nothing at all rude to you - I don't have to "make up" to no longer be rude), then I guess I'm the smaller person. I seriously have nothing to prove and what you're asking of me is something that you could have done several times over yourself in the amount of time you have been posting here.

So it's ok for you to be "naturally abrasive" but not for me? It's ok for you to attack me yet I can't say anything back?

Yes you are the smaller person. I am here and I have apologized and you have not.

ModTerrik · Apr 20, 2008, 09:55 AM // 09:55

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Originally Posted by DivineEnvoy

Here's my analogy: Someone spent four years into getting this degree of Engineering, and this person later demands that he deserves to be a doctor simply because of his efforts in those four years. Medical and Engineering are not related. As we know, if the person wanted to a doctor, he should've went to a medical school and put in efforts there.

Now here's the situation: There are people who spent time into working in real life, and they are demanding that they deserve to have a good amount of gold in this game called Guild Wars simply because they put in efforts into working in real life. As we know, real life and ingame are not related. If these people wanted to earn these gold ingame, they should've put in efforts ingame.

I can see that real life money and ingame gold to be apple and oranges, and I believe that my analogy proves the invalidity of this thread.

Then by extending that rationale, you must also be against people being able to buy additional character slots, skill packs and expansions.

Kyomi Tachibana · Apr 20, 2008, 09:57 AM // 09:57

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Originally Posted by ModTerrik

Actually, I have 4 kids and I know how much free time they have in comparison to myself. Bad arguement.

I was being a little facetious when I said 10-12 hours a day. That's only on weekends and all of your holidays/breaks.

How old are your children and how many extra curricular activities are they involved in?

The only time I have massive amounts of freetime are on the weekends I decide to stay home and do nothing instead of hanging out with friends or going camping with my family, etc.

DivineEnvoy · Apr 20, 2008, 09:58 AM // 09:58

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Originally Posted by ModTerrik

Then by extending that rationale, you must also be against people being able to buy additional character slots, skill packs and expansions.

There's a significant difference between purchasing gold and character slots, skill packs and expansions.

ModTerrik · Apr 20, 2008, 09:58 AM // 09:58

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Originally Posted by Kyomi Tachibana

She beat me to it!

Congrats on graduating HS! You're taking your first step into the semi-real world (assuming your going to college, you seem like a smart guy). IN about 15 years, you'll look back on your high school days and realize how much free time you really had. Trust me on this, you'll miss your knees when they're gone.

Crap..wife just told me that was A-holey and I wan't trying to be, Im really being genuine when I say congrats...I have a lot concerns as to whether my 12 year old willbe able to pull that off.

GW GF · Apr 20, 2008, 09:58 AM // 09:58

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Originally Posted by ModTerrik

Then by extending that rationale, you must also be against people being able to buy additional character slots, skill packs and expansions.

I was actually going to bring up the point of buying skill packs. Buying this seems like an easy way to earn things that you would have to do a mission to earn otherwise.

What do those that are against buying GW gold think about skill packs? Shouldn't you be forced to earn your skill? Isn't it unfair that buy purchasing something you can get more skills? Doesn't that give an unfair advantage to certain players?

ModTerrik · Apr 20, 2008, 09:59 AM // 09:59

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Originally Posted by DivineEnvoy

There's a significant difference between purchasing gold and character slots, skill packs and expansions.

In what ways...elaborate.

Kyomi Tachibana · Apr 20, 2008, 10:02 AM // 10:02

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Originally Posted by ModTerrik

Congrats on graduating HS! You're taking your first step into the semi-real world (assuming your going to college, you seem like a smart guy). IN about 15 years, you'll look back on your high school days and realize how much free time you really had. Trust me on this, you'll miss your knees when they're gone.

Crap..wife just told me that was A-holey and I wan't trying to be, Im really being genuine when I say congrats...I have a lot concerns as to whether my 12 year old willbe able to pull that off.

Ah, see, 12 year olds don't have to deal with part time jobs and over hour long commutes to school. But everyone's situation is unique.

I for one, leave before and get home after my mother who works a full time job.

If I do, I don't mean to come off A-holey either, it's just a tendency I have.